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care-tags.org fashion and friends 2017-05-19T11:55:17-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/feed.php?f=2&t=92 2017-05-19T11:55:17-04:00 2017-05-19T11:55:17-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=82875#p82875 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> https://www.grailed.com/drycleanonly/ca ... ster-class

good article

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2014-11-13T19:23:25-04:00 2014-11-13T19:23:25-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=46032#p46032 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]>

it's from Cesare Vecellio's costume book. should be of an unmarried ottoman woman.

whoops didnt read the italian. Just low-class) ottoman (turkish) woman. dont have the book with me anymore. from what I can understand, the passage says they dress in the manner of men and then goes on to use lots of clothing vocab i have no idea about.

second edit. found a french version.

"all the turkish women wear long garments as do the men and do not wear other veils or mouchoirs (????) Those of low class cover their head with a bonnet of velvet or other rich fabric (??) they affix another smaller veil over their eyes and in order to see without being seen. outside of the house, they do not expose their body. the coat is buttoned with a belt (boutonne jusqu'a la ceinture), underneath they wear pants of a fine fabrics. The women wear boots in the manner of men. when they go out, these women do not fear the gaze of men nor their threatening words and actions

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2014-08-03T18:55:56-04:00 2014-08-03T18:55:56-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=35014#p35014 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]>
It's an interesting problem because it raises questions about the very definition of art, whether an object's utility can prevent something from being seen as 'art' and whether external conditions (commercial pressures on designers, economic systems) should stop things from being receiving the kind of cultural recognition that fine art receives. If you know of anything written on the subject or just have strong opinions/ have ever thought about it i'm interest to learn more!

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2014-07-28T22:08:35-04:00 2014-07-28T22:08:35-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=34315#p34315 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by station — Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:08 pm


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2014-07-28T01:32:04-04:00 2014-07-28T01:32:04-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=34233#p34233 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/il2wu8l4eypsm ... ustman.pdf

Not sure I agree with the thesis but it showcases lots of cool garms

https://www.dropbox.com/s/drbq8907dfl6z ... oxford.pdf

Perhaps a bit dry

https://www.dropbox.com/s/24cm1g3nw2t78 ... elphia.pdf

Sorry for db links

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2014-07-25T00:42:53-04:00 2014-07-25T00:42:53-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33918#p33918 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by JtotheWhat — Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:42 am


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2014-07-24T23:55:21-04:00 2014-07-24T23:55:21-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33914#p33914 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]>
Although you guys's speculations about the prominence of men in top positions in the fashion industry and its internet support structure are interesting, i think you're both overthinking the issue. The fact that men control fashion system is not an exception case that needs to be explained by male estrangement or the superficiality of female interest; men control the art world, international banking, university boards-of-directors, the military-industrial complex, and any other system or organization you can think of. Men control these systems because patriarchal support structures (everything from preferential promotions to hereditary control to the oedipus complex to a fundamental refusal to recognize female genius etc etc) are deeply ingrained within all contemporary cultures and basically ensure male success. And because, fundamentally, the fashion system isn't much different from the art world or the military-industrial complex, the existence of the patriarchy can describe the very serious problem of gender disparity in the fashion industry as well.

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2014-07-24T20:18:16-04:00 2014-07-24T20:18:16-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33896#p33896 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]>
I get what you're trying to say and you put it together quite well..and on some points I definitely agree, I just don't know if it's the answer to what we were actually saying was the ''problem''. I know a lot of girls who I think love clothes (in my mind not the same as loving fashion, but that's another topic) and the idea of the lifestyle that is (for the most part falsely) portrayed as being available to people in the fashion ''world'', that being said I definitely know that there are men that would fall into the same category. I think when those people realize that they might be doing potentially menial tasks, for extremely long hours and what usually equates to a fairly unsubstantial salary.. they give it up or go into other sectors of the business (buying, merchandising, etc.).

The part where it falls apart for me is that we were highlighting the disparity between the number of women working in the industry and how many of them are in ''top'' positions. I can't really buy into the idea that anyone who has gone through all of the schooling, internships, job applications, shitty jobs, etc...Anyone who has gone through that entire process until they ended up actually designing for any major company whether it be Uniqlo or CdG has obviously decided it's something they are passionate about and want to pursue. Your argument, though in my opinion largely correct, doesn't really go as far to explain why all these companies have a large number of female employees that ultimately answer to men, or put more simply why men seem to get the ''top'' jobs despite there being less of them. I don't think those men are anymore passionate or driven on the whole than the female designers putting in 16 hour days for a fraction of the pay and zero recognition are. Obviously we aren't working with much concrete data and most of what we are discussing is speculation and/or anecdotal evidence, but it is an interesting topic none the less.

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2014-07-24T18:41:43-04:00 2014-07-24T18:41:43-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33886#p33886 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by popcorn — Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:41 pm


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2014-07-23T03:21:59-04:00 2014-07-23T03:21:59-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33672#p33672 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by Rosenrot — Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:21 am


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2014-07-22T22:51:52-04:00 2014-07-22T22:51:52-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33652#p33652 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by JtotheWhat — Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:51 pm


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2014-07-22T21:29:33-04:00 2014-07-22T21:29:33-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33647#p33647 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by Rosenrot — Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:29 pm


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2014-07-22T21:28:51-04:00 2014-07-22T21:28:51-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33646#p33646 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by Iliam — Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:28 pm


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2014-07-22T12:22:42-04:00 2014-07-22T12:22:42-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33595#p33595 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by bels — Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:22 pm


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2014-07-22T11:55:21-04:00 2014-07-22T11:55:21-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=92&p=33593#p33593 <![CDATA[Re: "I study Fashion academically"]]> Statistics: Posted by stappard_ — Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:55 am


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