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care-tags.org fashion and friends 2014-09-22T10:46:44-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/feed.php?f=3&t=823 2014-09-22T10:46:44-04:00 2014-09-22T10:46:44-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40427#p40427 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by Syeknom — Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:46 am

]]> 2014-09-22T10:42:14-04:00 2014-09-22T10:42:14-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40426#p40426 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]>
seriously, where do you get off thinking you have this super informed opinion on what feminists should do and how the movement can go forward when you clearly don't even have a 101 grasp on basic concepts? because you read some tumblr posts you thought were too 'radical'?

you are not willing to even earnestly read a comic about not sexually harassing women without trying to mansplain away every point in it. i don't think anything will get through to you, and anyone engaged on this topic (ESPECIALLY WOMEN) does not owe you their time to repeatedly explain super basic concepts that you are being presented with and pushing aside. i can't even imagine how infuriating this conversation would be for a woman trying to argue with you as for me its at least just an intellectual exercise and doesn't directly and significantly impact my quality of life.

congrats on "not groping women in the streets or cat-calling", i guess.

Statistics: Posted by raags — Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:42 am

]]> 2014-09-22T09:49:21-04:00 2014-09-22T09:49:21-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40423#p40423 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by can- — Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:49 am

]]> 2014-09-22T09:37:36-04:00 2014-09-22T09:37:36-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40422#p40422 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by UnwashedMolasses — Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:37 am

]]> 2014-09-22T09:21:21-04:00 2014-09-22T09:21:21-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40421#p40421 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]>
But also, I'm from Denmark, which I would regard as being more gender-equal than the US, so I guess it's hard for me to see the real impact of patriarchy when the affects aren't very apparent for me.

Statistics: Posted by Prae — Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:21 am

]]> 2014-09-22T08:43:39-04:00 2014-09-22T08:43:39-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40416#p40416 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by raags — Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:43 am

]]> 2014-09-22T06:47:07-04:00 2014-09-22T06:47:07-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40408#p40408 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]>
The only problem I have with that comic is that it negates how many of the scenarios could just as easily have the genders flipped. I definitely agree with a lot of the ideas and problems of the comic and I see how it's a bigger problem for women, but it seems to be more a problem with 'assholes' rather than men.

Some few examples:

"Do you see the way she treats him? He's so whipped.": This also goes the other way, I (and most of the people I know) will call out relationships on both ways if one part is way more controlling than the other, it just seems that it is more normal to see girls being overly controlling, at least in the relationships I've seen.

And for the frame two down ("only way to stop them is saying I'm taken, and some find that a challenge") it's very universal and up to peoples personality. It's definitely something girls also do and also gay males (trying to 'convert' straight guys and seeing that as a challenge), something which I've been the "victim" of myself.

I could go on with many of the frames, but that would just be a repetition.

This is not to deny that women in public spaces can experience problematic issues, but instead of chalking it up to the "patriarchy" and pretending that males have the same characteristics regardless of their culture or upbringing, I think it should just be more about calling out assholes who engage in this behavior. On the flip-side I also think that the only way these notions will enter into the public consciousness is through dialing it down. I accept that I might be a part of the problem, but I doubt I'm anywhere near the worst of them. The thing is that the people you want to change are the ones that are the 'worst' and I doubt any of them would change a thing after reading this. It has to be a small gradual change in society, nothing this drastic can just become a part of society overnight.

Hope I made sense without sounding too much like a shitlord.

Statistics: Posted by Prae — Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:47 am

]]> 2014-09-22T01:28:03-04:00 2014-09-22T01:28:03-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40393#p40393 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by Stingray Sam — Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:28 am

]]> 2014-09-22T01:09:30-04:00 2014-09-22T01:09:30-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40390#p40390 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]>
the thing about is that if they are both feminists (granted the white woman isn't in favor of white feminism) and they both want to dismantle the system that men have setup so it's different than comparing a man to a woman in terms of privilege/feminism. i also could be completely wrong so if i am someone should tell me but this is what i know on the subject

Statistics: Posted by nevergreen — Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:09 am

]]> 2014-09-22T00:34:12-04:00 2014-09-22T00:34:12-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40388#p40388 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by nevergreen — Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:34 am

]]> 2014-09-22T00:44:12-04:00 2014-09-22T00:03:24-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=40386#p40386 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by Stingray Sam — Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:03 am

]]> 2014-08-13T06:40:18-04:00 2014-08-13T06:40:18-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=36056#p36056 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by wiggly--woo — Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:40 am

]]> 2014-08-13T06:03:24-04:00 2014-08-13T06:03:24-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=36051#p36051 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by Runningshoes — Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:03 am

]]> 2014-08-11T16:52:55-04:00 2014-08-11T16:52:55-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=35872#p35872 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by BobbyZamora — Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:52 pm

]]> 2014-08-09T15:44:05-04:00 2014-08-09T15:44:05-04:00 https://old.care-tags.org/viewtopic.php?t=823&p=35718#p35718 <![CDATA[Re: feminism and social progressivism thread]]> Statistics: Posted by IsaiahSchafer — Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:44 pm

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