Material Science

[bels]

Are you MENTILE for VENTILE?

Does GORE-TEX mean MORE SEX?

Is WARP officially better than WEFT???

Does the Japanese refusal to do bulk discounts on fabric encourage their niche labels?

Talk about dope blends, waterproof wools, thick mother of pearl buttons etc here.

[bels]

Does anybody own anything in Ventile? I'm thirsty for it, seems like a wonderfabric, waterproof but breathable? Why do we even need Bob Gore?

[maj]

[UnwashedMolasses]

[can-]

There is a difference between ventile and Ventile(c)

the first is just a cotton woven in the manner described in OP. water won't bead on it and it won't keep you much dryer than the equivalent twill, canvas, oxford, etc

the brand name is a proprietary weave and DWR appliqué combo. this stuff is expensive, will keep you dry, often comes with taped seam construction etc. this is what tilak, stone island, pwvc etc use. the fancy durable water resistance treatment is mostly what's keeping you dry and it will eventually wear in like any dwr.

ventile also takes dyes really poorly and fades quick with wash. something abut the length of the cotton or something. probably why you see a lot of white ventile

[kyung]

[UnwashedMolasses]

[JonjoShelvey]

who designs the cool fabrics that some brands use? like that jasmine scented jawn, or some of the crazy shit SISP does, who designs that? what you think they go to school for to learn that


edit: of course by sisp i mean mainline stone island

[ramseames]

materials engineering, textile engineering, textile chemistry

[bels]

Unlined 60 40 cotton poly outer wear is great.

[JonjoShelvey]

what's great about it? thought about buying a 60/40 m65 and bdus

[can-]

BDU's come in a bunch of fabrics, i think the NYCO blend tends to be 50/50 rather than 60/40 (which is usually not actually 60/40 but something close). can also find summer variants in full cotton or 40/60 poly cotton blends.

as with ventile it's important to distinguish between 60/40 DWR fabrics which is what you find on any kind of sierra/bean/woolrich mountain parka, or uniqlo blocktech parkas (do they still make these)? and normal 60/40 fabrics (usually ripstop) which just offer higher durability and a slightly different handfeel. one will keep you pretty dry in the rain, the other wont

[rublev]

Fabric on this Stone Island jacket is very cool... 'nylon metal tyvek shield jacket'

[rublev]

More Our Legacy stuff... i like what they do with fabric a lot. Always a bit different / interesting... willing to be a bit weird in comparison to other similarly priced euro brands.

'WHITE INDIGO'




"Each item is first dyed Indigo and then bleached, washed and tumbled until it reaches almost white again. As a result of this process each individual garment has a unique character and faint traces of indigo."

ALSO, this 'raw silk' fabric looks amazing:

[bels]

I don't think any of my 60 40 stuff is dwr but it keeps the rain of OK. Not amazingly though. In serious rain it gives up the ghost pretty fast.

[can-]

if it beads it has DWR

[maj]

[bels]

Feelgood Technology 0069(TM) ACRONYM (gmbh) lube dispersal system patent pending?

[maj]

stone island reflex mat

essentially it's a reflective fabric which then has shards of glass weaved into it which reflect light.

[CleanThug]

only $690, what a barg!!!

http://shop.havenshop.ca/collections/st ... mat-jacket

[Vaeltaja]

I heard that in USA and Europe, the makers of GORE-TEX are very strict on who gets fabrics (something like approved designs), but in Japan, they're a lot more lenient. Is this true? If it is, why?

[Metcarfre]

What I DO know is that WL Gore is very strict about how Gore-Tex is used in garments in North America. Since GT is so strongly associated with hiking/climbing/etc gear, GT licensees are required to have their garments pass a system of testing performed by WL Gore to ensure they are completely waterproof. They also, in the past at least, have removed licenses from manufacturers who dabbled in alternative membrane or DWR waterproof-breathable systems. For a long time they had very strict rules about design, too - GT jackets couldn't have detachable hoods, for example.

Whether this holds true in other parts of the world, I'm not sure. Could be one of those complex international licensing situations, like how TNF purple label is entirely separate from The North Face.

[blanket]

[maj]

Lovely post, similar topic here if you're lookig for previous discussions viewtopic.php?f=2&t=597&p=31075&hilit=Material+science#p31075

[blanket]

Thanks, sorry for the repeat thread u_u


Mods, could please you move my post to the material science thread? Thank you

[Bobbin.Threadbare]

This is my day job!

[bels]

ACRNYM 2019

http://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/sup ... als-85592/

[can-]

585 we out here !!!!

[bels]

[ramseames]

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