Art

[momjeans]

Bear
by Steve McQueen

[rublev]

went to these recently

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also this just opened so need to go asap !!!

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[AmericanPie]

Had my final review Tuesday night, thought I'd share what I showed here. I think I passed college. I haven't shot proper, well-lit documentation photos yet. I promise I'll post about someone else's work soon.

[rublev]

this weekend in glasgow sees the open house art festival, something which started a couple of years ago by gsa graduates.


there are about 80 artists involved - you can see them all

[rublev]

*sips coffee, looks over glasses and shuffles paper*

discuss

[bels]

how many people are there in the world who have managed to transform the education required to fully understand contemporary art into a career which pays enough for them to purchase contemporary art?

[oucho]

If you are interested in the 'art world' at all you should watch F for Fake, it's directed by and features Orson Welles, it's basically about Elmyr de Hory. The whole film is basically about fakery in art, it has lots of clever cuts and quips that play around the theme as well some really interesting interviews with Elmyr and Clifford Irving and an interesting insight into high society.

[bels]

Feel unconvinced by the talk that you don't need an art education to understand contemporary art. I'm not saying you can't enjoy it without an education or you can't have an opinion without an education but if I go to the museum and look at (random example of the first thing I found on the Ikon gallery page)


Ryan Gander, Please be patient - Jonathan Watkins sitting in the Deutsche Bank VIP lounge at Frieze Art Fair London, 2007, talking candidly about his disdain for the British weather (2015) Circular toughened glass disk, acrylic 45cm in diameter © Ryan Gander. Courtesy the artist.

Then I haven't a clue what's going on. Who is Jonathan Watkins? What's Frieze Art Fair London? Why is a circular toughened glass disk with acrylic on it in an art gallery? I certainly couldn't pick it out from a line up of circular toughened glass with acrylic paint on it.

I think it's fine to have this reaction and I quite enjoy it (It's why I like contemporary art) but there must be a bunch of stuff behind why this abstract work has been put in the gallery instead of all the other millions of abstract works and I couldn't begin to tell you why. All I can tell you is if I like it, how it makes me feel and maybe take a stab at how it was made.

There was some chapman broz thing at the Fitzwilliam recently that needed some knowledge of Goya that I absolutely lacked other than knowing "He was emo" I liked the stuff but who cares if I liked something??? If the artist is working on some level higher than "Will randos like this" (which they surely will be if they went to art school, it might even be impossible for them not to) then there must be something happening in the work beyond "Do you like this" and without an equivalent education, how will you ever be able to even scrape at what that is?

Older stuff too, if I go round with someone who has some art education my experienced is improved like a billion times because there's a tonne of things to talk about.

I love art, I think it's important, I'm fine with people going to art school or not or making money of stuff that only appeals to some people. I don't have a problem with any of art, but I think that to understand a lot of it you need a specialised education, even if that specialised education just consists of looking at a lot of art.

[momjeans]

@bela
i think that having some type of education on art can improve the enjoyment and sense of fulfillment one gets looking at art, but i dont think that it is necessary.
to me, it seem analogous to the ways that an understanding of some literary theories can improve ones engagement with a text, but obviously a huge amount of writing is read/enjoyed/understood by people who don't have an education of that at all.

[bels]

I would say that the education required to understand a modern book was taught to me in GCSE english though yes, there are further levels to some books that would require more knowledge.

I don't think I can "read" most contemporary art to the same level I can "read" cont flaxy though and I'm self taught on both of them.

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[germinal]

I went to some art galleries with iliam and i decided i don't like art

[zayg]

adding to the discussion on galleries, i like this piece

had to write a paper for my philosophy of art class the other day and i cited this quite a bit

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ZhTb ... sp=sharing

[station]

I think that at face value, art galleries as palaces and banks makes sense. For the majority of people I think there is little difference between browsing a gallery and browsing a museum/palace since they lack the ability to purchase any of the pieces, and if you’re just strolling through either they’re both similarly pleasing. On the other hand, the social elite can purchase paintings, and many have collections larger that are too large to be continuously displayed. In this case, I think that art can become more of a business, since it is a pretty liquefiable asset, but I’m pretty unknowledgeable about this. I do remember seeing this in “Who the *$&% is Jackson Pollack” though.

Also, I think some level of art knowledge is required to “understand pieces” from any period beyond face value, not just contemporary pieces. I think that people’s general dislike for many contemporary pieces is just because the pieces have been abstracted so there is less that you can appreciate from face value, like Bela’s example. For example, everyone can agree that the mona lisa is a very pretty painting, but there are a lot of other very pretty paintings from the high renaissance. So why is the Mona Lisa so famous? I think without some knowledge on the era, it’d be hard to articulate this and in that case I don’t think you really “understand” the piece and its relevance. Of course, I don’t think this is necessary to view art. When I go to a gallery, I usually know nothing about the artists I’m viewing, but I still enjoy a lot of the pieces because at face value, I think they’re interesting. At galleries it’s nice because whoever is working there will generally be happy to explain pieces to you, which helps you understand the context and construction of the piece, which in turn helps you appreciate it a lot more.

On a side note, I’m taking American Art History from 1958-1985 in the fall, so hopefully I’ll be more knowledgeable about this topic soon!

[Iliam]

[momjeans]

[BobbyZamora]

[bels]

@casualblazercrew

Is there any good #art #culture events in that London this Saturday?

[mu_]

tfw art gallery down the street

http://www.ffdg.net/

I've met Ryan before at a different thing so I'm looking forward to this

[deadkitty]

I just saw this great exhibition of William Pope L.'s stuff at the MOCA Geffen Contemporary. There was a room (titled "Blind") which had a picture that you could walk up to. From far away it looked one way. From up close it is a hole in the wall. An access to another space that can't be entered. The picture was not the work. The two rooms were. The picture was just a framed hole in the wall. A gentle breeze comes out of the hole as if suggesting breath or even communication. The picture is trying to say something but can only do it in the one way it knows how: darkness.




there were also a lot of tables of onions



la people check this out it's only on for a couple more weeks (also it's free today. happy flag day)

[sbuers]

Super interesting piece. Was lucky enough to see this when it was exhibited.

[AmericanPie]

http://greatartinuglyrooms.tumblr.com/

http://craigslistmirrors.com/

[pirxthepilot]

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more mysterious dots!
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[can-]

what the fuck is going on

[pirxthepilot]

i wanted to show some amazing images of sculptures an artist i'm working with has produced- she was ok with it but turns out my contract specifically forbids such usage. so, you'll just have to imagine. picture mutant cyborg-hr giger sex squids that would tentacle you to an orgasmic death

[Dingdongfootball]

Twitch is streaming every episode of The Joy of Painting over the next few days as a promotion for some new feature they've got or something. The reason they're doing it is beside the point; this show is actually so nice and calming and entertaining to watch. Bob Ross seems like the kindest, most gentle person on the planet and his paintings are so beautiful and peaceful. I find myself almost unable to close the tab in my browser because I just want to see what he will paint next. I could honestly watch him all day, even if just in the background.

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José Antonio Hernández Díez, Kafka, 2002 (x-post to trainers thread)