by smiles » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:03 pm
WOW THIS IS LONG. IT ALSO DOESNT HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH LOVE
w/r/t inter-asian biases: the situation in hk is pretty ridiculous. South-east aisan people are looked down upon and I've heard stories of Indian/fillipino people getting strongly discriminated against in restaurants and bars (also the whole issue of domestic helpers). My Gf is from mainland china (and like all other students from china coming to hk she had to be one of the best in her province) and in HK mainlanders are seen as dirty,rude, and basically uncivilized. Living in HK is very crowded and there are certainly lots of tourists about so to an extent i can understand their frustration. My GF applied herself and became fluent in canto within her first few months of living here. So now she is able to pass herself off as a local which i think is a pretty sad situation. I've hear people tell her "i thought you were a local/japanese/korean" expecting her to take it as a compliment. (I'm just trying to contextualize this whole thing).
w/r/t understand culture and upbringing in the context of a relationship. I think i've overstated the importance of cultural differences (probably as means of some kind of justification or explanation) though of course it still plays a role. In my understanding, the problem has to do with the connection between culture and identity. For me, Culture/America does not have great bearing upon my identity. By that I mean the concept of country of America (the nation, the people, its place in the world) does not really determine how i 1. view myself and 2. interact with other people. I think of being a Vermonter first (i guess, if even that). Of course, understanding the cultural hegemony that America has over most of the world, even without consciously trying i'm probably somewhat 'within' american culture in hk. In contrast, my Gf has an extremely strong sense of being 'Chinese', with all the baggage that brings along with it, especially in hk. People are constantly shitting on China and conflating the government as being representative of the people and the culture. No one really attacks america in my daily life, but it happens to my gf all the time about china and forcing her to either lay down and agree with the stuff people are saying, or defend herself and come off as being uppity or a commie (or something). Basically, I assumed that my gf had similar feelings about china as I do about america. So i didnt really ask her about 'chinese' stuff that wasn't directly related to her general life. I thought i was understanding her background and upbringing when talking to her, but it is/was only one part (a part that i dont feel as strongly). Not really sure where i'm trying to go with this so i'll just leave it.
w/r/t: white guy/ asian girl and the aisan guy. man, this stuff is really tough. I don't know if i can explain why I chose to get into a relationship with a Chinese girl. In the past I've dated a taiwanese girl and and a local HKer. Of course appearance is the initial factor but i'd like to think the later stages have nothing to do with her race. i think this problem gets really complicated when people start assigning blanket values like 'submissive' and 'exotic' onto "asian" girls. This seems to be a mainly american problem where there the idea of "asian" people exists. I don't want to historicize this discussion but if you think about films like "the world of suzie wong" (exoticizing) and the fact that so many wars have been fought in asia (korea, japan, phillipines, vietnam etc) and you think about how the women in those places were portrayed to white men as throwaway basically, someone to fuck and leave and forget about after they went back to america to find a nice white wife there's this unfortunate pattern that starts to develop. It's uncertain how well that kind of image has pervaded impressions of asian women but imo there will always be some white guys who have an image of asian women derived from those sources seeing them as as exotic having the "right" to take them away from asian guys. I'm not an asian girl, i havent really encountered these kinds of people. I think we need an aisan girls perspective.
There are no hard and fast answers for this situation. Plus its hard to ask people why they like the things they do cause they probably wont give you the real answer (especially if its about sexuality).
is it weird that i think black and asian guys are the most attractive (to me). I wont forget about the asian guys (-__-)/\(-__-)
In HK theres an imbalance of inter-racial relationships (and lots of creepy old fat white guys with younger Filipino wives/girlfriends) but i dont think its really explained in the same way. It more has to do with the percieved lack of assertiveness on the part of Hk men.
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