Random Rhetorical Hypebeast Fashion Thoughts

[ramseames]

[jujumaster]

Grailed is where regrettable purchases go to die.

[rublev]

would anyone be interested in buying a schneider knit from two winters ago? i'm kinda allergic to mohair so every time i go close to it i think 'nope', but i've held onto it 'cos it's nice. gotta move it on now tho, i think. it's the blue one with kinda patches of difference shades. A+ condition "with tags". i'll take photos fyi. will prob ebay it but care-taggers first etc.

[Copeland]

Does anyone else get Christopher Shannon, Christopher Kane, and Christopher Raeburn mixed up? From a non-Brit.

[maj]

I only try to remember the good one

[ramseames]

[Copeland]

But why would he go to a dead 90's American label when he was at Dior.

[bels]

Apparently he gets FULL creative control at CK, wheras at Dior there were parts of the brand (I guess advertising, branding, etc) that he didn't control.

@rams I think you're wrong, Raf and Jlaw are besties:



(pic i think predates raf at dior)

[can-]

i think theres more overlap between ckc and raf than you might immediately think. weird lux synthetic fabrics, structured garments, and similar shapes.

i LOVE ckc so hopefully this is cute.

[bels]

You love anything you can get for 70% off in XXL

[rublev]

which one? kinda want the waves but also...not sure. stripes are nice too. also these might be horrible.

[nevergreen]

[bels]

http://www.theindustrylondon.com/patric ... -clothing/

Sell your water resistant made in England harringtons on eBay Patrick. Go on. See if I care.

Approaching peak bela here.

[Copeland]

blatant pandering but is wearing a big piece of leather, weird? Sneakers, dress shoes, leather jackets. From a non-vegan/animal rights perspective, still seems weird. Flyknits are more comfortable than any leather sneaker, tech jackets are more practical than leather outerwear. Outside of tradition, leather seems a strange material to fetishize.

Edit: That's true, leather ages unlike any other fabric, but that's also a little weird as the satisfaction is out of owning something living.

[adiabatic]

[fun_yunchables]

I disagree with that statement, there is nothing "weird" about deriving satisfaction from how some objects age.

"Weird" implies some sort of absolute cultural norm, which I think is a pretty destructive perspective--I'd much rather use something akin to "different." Allow me to explain:
Aging objects is something that is cherished in many cultures (even some western ones). The very idea of impermanence is central to Zen Buddhism, and arises in an object context through the philosophy of "sabi," which I'm sure many people are familiar with (the sabi half of wabi-sabi). It is not so much the object itself that is cherished as so much how the object changes with age, it is a perfect reminder of the ephemeral quality of life that Zen Buddhism embraces. Even materials other than leather are very much cherished. Jade, for example. The value of jade (also known as a "living" stone) is partially due to because of how it changes color over time. Cast iron, ceramic, paper, wood, brass, silver, gold-- these are all materials that are valuable to people because of how they age. Aging objects tell rich and illustrious stories.

As I understand, the idea of an aging object is particularly strange for you. I think some difference in opinion arises from a more fundamental perspective about impermanence, so I accept that the satisfaction of seeing something age is different. I, however, am not a fan of the language used to describe that feeling! I don't mean this as an attack in any way but I just don't like how that phrasing comes about.

[adiabatic]

[Copeland]

Instead of "weird," I should've used "strange" to erase the negative/normative connotation. I see the satisfaction with owning leather, I like the patina on my wallet and that CPs mold themselves to my feet. The strangeness simply comes from having never reflected on how different leather is from other materials and having always accepted its use as a fashion norm. It's been used to make clothing for all of human civilization, but out of what's available now, leather rarely seems to be the most practical or effective material, in particular for sneakers and outerwear. Not considering its luxury status, there seems to be little reason to own leather unless for purely aesthetic reasons and considering that it's expensive. And again, owning leather for its cultural status or associated craftsmanship is understandable, I get that it's nice, even though I'm not into the subcultures of goodyear welts, full-grain, cordovan, etc. There's a lot of knowledge and discernment for leather, but I've honestly never found any of it to matter or make any practical difference in my experience; e.g. older season RO uses shitty leather, so and so dress shoe uses corrected grain instead of full grain, etc. This is separate from veganism/animal cruelty as I still like my wool sweaters and coats.

This is all highly biased and probably without a point, but I basically realized that I default to flyknits more often and not, and that vegan ramones have been the only "baller" sneaker I've worn consistently out of the box cuz I like waxed canvas better than the leather version. Strongly thinking of never copping leather sneakers again as I hate breaking in stuff on my feet and they're never going to be as comfortable as flyknits. I used to think leather jackets are awesome but now I don't see the point of getting one having owned Veilance/tech stuff.

[Morlin]

Is there a word for jeans with a self edge that's nearly the same color as the outside? Like most black jeans () but with blue washes etc

[bleeker]

3sixteen uses a fabric they call "shadow selvedge" for different cuts of their jeans. It has a black weft and indigo warp so it's dark on both sides of the fabric. Supposedly it fades to a dark blue over time... I don't know much else though.

http://www.3sixteen.com/collections/den ... selvedge-1

[yourdad]

Shadow selvedge fades to a fairly bright blue in comparison to the rest of the denim, almost an electric blue. Definitely one of the key reasons a lot of people buy them, myself included. The contrast after a while looks really nice.

[pirxthepilot]

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[bels]

What's the matter now pirx. Do you not want it getting out that you like e tautz?

[Bobbin.Threadbare]

[adiabatic]

I’ve come to appreciate mid-2010s slim-fit shorts in modern fabrics, but this floor vent I’m standing over would cool me much more effectively if I were wearing my early-2000s shorts with wide leg openings

[rublev]

[jujumaster]

This current trend for ridiculously priced vintage band tees needs to fuck right off.

[CheerUpBrokeBoy]

vintage rock tees were the logical next step for the supreme/FoG crowd – "cool" and "edgy" while still aesthetically bland, can be resold for 15x retail, wear and tear accepted because it makes it more "authentic"

my friend wants to buy some more on the justification that he can "resell them for more after a while"???? like what? you've been into fashion since before jerry lorenzo was poppin, do you not see that this is a trend

i wonder how punk/metal fans feel seeing lil yachty fans wearing the iron maiden shirts they were shoved into lockers for wearing back in 1985

e: yeah that's what i'm saying, 2 different groups. tryna throw a shot abt how none of these memeteens w 30yo tshirts on do it for the love of the band

[ramseames]

there's a moment in travis scott's nardwuar interview where he gets given this album



and he knows of it because he wore a tee with it on it in one of his videos

and then when asked about metal in general says "I never really got into it because it was super hard to listen to"

was on the nomad site looking at new bird on the weekend and saw they got a couple dozen of those lorenzo tees in and sold through them all, presumably for $1-300 each

on the other hand I saw maiden alone a few months ago and enjoyed myself but sorta in spite of the crowd, so I don't really feel like metal culture being ransacked by kids who own raf adidas is that much of a tragedy

[trasparenti]

I was in July's Men's Non-no!

sorry for awful picture but here's a little blurry me.


I'm returning to America soon sadly but I'll try to get a bunch of magazine scans once I return.

also cuz I haven't been on in a little while... no cop begins now. one of the reasons I'm not too miserable about not staying here longer is because I can and will spend every cent I make and then some. If I had iron willpower I could do it but the combination of all the imports and exclusive items, original brands, and one of the liveliest secondhand markets in the world makes for a dangerous combo. I'll be back sooner or later though